William Linton Duncan, Sr. (1856-1941) and his son Alexander Noel Duncan (1885-1942) were injured on the Grindstone.
CONDUCTOR DIBBLEE TOOK A DESPERATE CHANCE AND LOST (Bangor Daily News, August 3, 1911)
Wreck Testimony Shows That Run From Millinocket Was a Gamble With Death. Investigation Conducted by State Board of Railroad Commissioners at Millinocket Wednesday Was Largely Attended.
Conductor W. H. Dibblee of an Aroostook county excursion train unwittingly entered a race with death from Millinocket station to Grindstone, last Friday night and death stretched out its hand and seized the prize.
Unwittingly—mind the word. Bitter things, sinister things, have been said against this man since the wreck. But on the witness stand yesterday he admitted brokenly that he took a chance. “But as surely as I live,” said he, “I thought I had time to make the Grindstone switch and clear for number eight.”
But, unwittingly or not, he raced with death, and the shadow sped out of the blackness of the storm and the wilderness and won.
The cause of the wreck? Simply again, if testimony count, the vacillation, the shifting of the human factor. And again the vacillation of the human factor, no set of rules, rigid as they may be drawn, can avail.
And certainly no drama of railroad mishap in this State ever was unfolded amidst wilder settings than this Grindstone tragedy. Added to the usual horrors of a wreck were savage natural conditions—a raging storm of wind and rain; an isolated and pathetic little station, set down in a sort of clearing in the forest; feeble telegraph and telephone facilities; a right of way bordered by a swamp, with the roadbed itself flanked by sluggish ditch water so deep the lily pads floated on it; no hospital, no hotel, no doctors nor nurses. A forlorn and desolate stage indeed, on which eight men lived the last few moments of their lives—and then yielded them up to the shadow that, was racing with the train!
Railroad men years in the service were asking last night coming down from the hearing, why Dibblee took the chance. Why he tried to make the Grindstone switch with a freight engine and five cars, eight and nineteenths miles in ten minutes and ten seconds, not allowing for stating his train or stopping his train to take the switch. Or, why he rain by the safe refuge of Bowden’s siding, two and a half miles above Millinocket station; or, why, when at 9:05, four minutes before his time was up for reaching the Grindstone siding, and six minutes before the collision—when he admitted to himself that a collision was possible—why didn’t he, instead of shielding his eyes and peering from the baggage car door at a black landscape reeling by with trees bent and rocking in the wind—why didn’t he pull the danger signal, throw out a lantern, and back away out of danger? But the human factor, which looms about 99 per cent large in the eyes of railroad executives, failed, that was all. Dibblee didn’t
And so half Aroostook county is in mourning and down in the machine shop at Milo Junction the hulks of engines 248 and 55 loom up like strange misshapen brutes; while out in the shop yards are the two tenders, frames buckled, the tanks roaring up in the air so that they looked like great rocking-horses with inverted rockers; and there, also, is the combination car, the 84, split and torn, bearing mute testimony to the roughness with which the winner of the race seized his prizes.
All the grim details of the tragedy were rehearsed yesterday in the little hall over the fire engine house in Millinocket, before the railroad commissioners of this state, acting jointly with special investigators of the United States Interstate Commerce Commission.
The hearing began shortly after 10:30 in the morning, lasting until 12:30, when recess was taken until 1:30, and then continued until 5:30, when testimony was concluded. It all pivoted around what Conductor Dibblee said. He told the truth. He related what he did and what he didn’t do, and what he might have done. He was honest, and he was pathetic, and he presented a very perplexing figure. People have said that he was cruel in his coldness, and didn’t realize what the wreck meant. But perhaps they didn’t watch him as he was taking or trying to take, luncheon at the Great Northern yesterday noon. For he fooled with a little soup, took a cup of tea, and then went out of the room with his head bowed.
But what’s the use?
The hearing moved swiftly and smoothly guided by the capable hand of George M. Thompson, county attorney for Penobscot county. The local setting, the court room, was looked out for by ex-Deputy Sheriff Fred Gates, who kept the crowd quiet and cast out by the scruff of the neck a quarrelsome yellow pup who came in seeking a fight. This was the only humorous spot in an otherwise very sad day. For the official inquiry into such a drama as the Grindstone tragedy can be nothing else than sad.
Testimony during the hearing developed the fact from numerous witnesses that the Bangor & Aroostook uses every precaution to insure a wide margin of safety for its trains. Not only is the code of standard rules which has been adopted by the American Railway Association used, but the road has drafted rules of its own, correlative to the standard rules, which make the margin of safety still wider and more secure.
THE HEARING
The hearing commenced at 10:37 o’clock in the municipal court room, in Millinocket, which is located over the fire station. The state railroad commissioners, Messrs. Spofford Keizer and Jones, were seated at the head of the room, with W. D. Anderson and T. W. Roche, representing the interstate commerce commission at their right.
All the general officers of the Bangor & Aroostook were present except President Cram. Vice President Percy R. Todd sat next to Judge Stearns and near him were General Supt. W. M. Brown, and Supt. Hugh Montgomery of the department of motor power and equipment. Supt. W. K. Hallet of the southern division and Trainmaster Darling were also in the group. There were conductors and brakemen and a sprinkling of townspeople. Hon. Ira G. Hersey of Houlton sat with County Attorney Thompson and Judge Stearns, representing Conductor Dibblee.
Chairman Spofford stated the object of the investigation, and explained the presence of the federal investigators, in acting jointly with the State in the inquiry. The official stenographer was then sworn.
County Attorney George S. Thompson of Penobscot called the witnesses who were sworn. There were 13 in the first group.
SUPT. BROWN
The first man to take the stand was William M. Brown, general superintendent of the Bangor & Aroostook. Witness said in part:
“Have been with the railroad since 1892. For Friday last the passenger department authorized an excursion and called on the operating department to arrange for schedule. This was done, and equipment was gathered. Excursion train consisted of an engine and eight passenger cars. At South Lagrange three of these coaches were set off. The train had a running schedule only so far as advertised on the poster. This is the general custom, and train crews are instructed no to exceed it. The conductor of the train was Dibblee, and there were three brakemen from Houlton down and back. Garcelon was the engineer and Gallagher was the firemen.”
On cross-examination by Judge Stearns witness spoke of siding between Millinocket and Grindstone, called Bowden’s siding, extending two and a half miles north of Millinocket. The running schedule was further explained.
J. P. DARLING
Witness is trainmaster of northern division of the Bangor & Aroostook. He presented a set of rules for guidance of train crews. He then explained difference between superior and inferior train, stating that on the night of the collision, number 2, south bound, was superior Witness also stated that passenger trains scheduled in the time cards had right of way over all other trains. There are several classes of trains.
Rule 87 in the general rules read by the witness stated that an inferior train must keep clear of superior train, and if not clear when time has expired, must be protected.
Witness stated that as second section of number seven on the night of the accident, it must clear number eight, a superior train by direction.
This second section must, according to the rule, have cleared number eight at Grindstone. It had, however, as second section of seven, the rights of number seven. Grindstone is a regular scheduled stop for a number eight in the time card.
“Conductor and engineer are equally responsible for the safety of passengers in running a train,” said Mr. Darling.
The rule covering this was read. Witness further stated that this rule is part of standard rules adopted by American Railway Association.
CINDUCTOR IN CHARGE
Mr. Darling then read the rule defining function of conductor, which states that he is in charge of all employees on the train. Every employee on the road has a set of these rules, and, besides, is examined as to their understanding of these rules before he can be promoted.
Witness stated as to how these examinations are conducted. Conductor Dibblee was examined by J. J. Marr, not now with the road. Conductor Nutter, who was in charge of No. 8 the night of the accident, was examined by witness.
Witness was a chief dispatcher on the New York Central before taking position of trainmaster on the Bangor & Aroostook.
On cross examination witness stated that 90 per cent of railroads in the country used standard rules. He knew of no road doing interstate business not using these rules. The Bangor & Aroostook uses additional safeguards to the standard rules to give a greater margin of safety than even the standard code gives. Operators must deliver order to both engineer and conductor and get signatures.
Rules governing regular number seven apply to second section, also. In case second section is two or three hours later than first section, orders are given by dispatcher to help out inferior class trains running against the second section. It was the duty of the second section of number seven, the night of the wreck, to clear number eight at all stations. It must have been at Grindstone at 9:09 o’clock, the night of wreck.
WILLIAM G. TINKER
William G. Tinker, train dispatcher of district number one, was on duty from 3 to 11 o’clock of Friday last. Picked up second section of number seven that night at South Lagrange. Witness pointed out on the train sheet the marks of train eight, and train seven and second seven on the night of wreck. Witness read order he gave second seven at South Lagrange, telling it to run to Millinocket via Medford. This is all witness had to do with running orders to second seven as far as Millinocket. Up to Millinocket, from South Lagrange, according to Mr. Tinker’s testimony, the excursion train had run as an extra but at Millinocket assumed again the rights of second seven. Witness gave further testimony regarding orders issued on his district that night, not affecting second seven.
Witness gave times of departure of number eight from several stations in his district from Oakfield Junction to Grindstone the night of the wreck. Witness had given no orders to number eight, as it was running on schedule.
“Conductor of second seven could use his own judgment at Millinocket,” said the witness, “as to what to do. There were no special orders for the.” Brief cross-examination developed nothing new. First number seven wore signals denoting a second section.
Second seven should have been at Grindstone at 9:09 to clear number eight; that was up to the train and not to the dispatcher.’
CHESTER T. NUTTER
Conductor of number eight the night of the wreck. At Oakfield Junction was told that there was second section to number seven. Made regular stops coming down. We were perhaps half minute late, but were reported on time. We were on time at Grindstone. All watches must compare with standard clocks. My watch as ten seconds fast at Caribou; the engineers was two seconds slow. The certificate of Inspector Adolf Pfaff was offered, showing that the watch of witness was in perfect order.
Crossed first number seven at Littleton. Stopped at Davidson to leave a passenger. We left Grindstone at 9:09-40. There was no operator on duty at the station. There was a switch and turnout about 20 car-lengths south of station. There is a sharp curve to the right going south from Grindstone station.
A northbound and southbound train could not see each other until practically on top of each other on this curve.
The first intimation of trouble was the emergency brakes. The smash came immediately. Rather expected to meet second seven at Grindstone. Witness then described condition of wreck and rescue of passengers. The rear end of number eight when it stopped was on train length south of south switch. Number eight was probably going 20 miles an hour at time of collision.
A rule was read governing action of trains of same class approaching a crossing and Conductor Nutter said that such rules were followed by number eight the night of the wreck.
On cross-examination witness said that he had no definite crossing point with second seven at Grindstone. If he had he would have waited. Brakes worked all right during accident and equipment was first class.
“Mr. Nutt,’ said Judge Sterns, impressively, “are you positive that you did not leave Grindstone a few seconds ahead of time?”
“I am absolutely positive,” said Mr. Nutter.
Chairman Spofford of the Commission then asked Mr. Nutter if Grindstone was not a scheduled meeting place for second seven and number eight.
“It was meeting place according to the rules if second seven could have reached Grindstone at 9:09.”
Mr. Spofford explained that he asked the question at the request of Mr. Hersey representing Dibblee and the inference from what Mr. Spofford said was that possibly blame could be attached to number eight for leaving Grindstone before second seven. Mr. Nutter cleared this up, however.
READS DEPOSITION
At this point a deposition from Wm. J. Orr, injured engineer of the number eight was read.
General Supt. Brown was recalled to the stand and identified and explained a blue print of the vicinity of Grindstone station with the track down across the bridge. The collision occurred 1636 feet or roughly two fifths of a mile from Grindstone station.
On cross-examination Mr. Brown said that Grindstone was not a scheduled crossing for any trains on the 28th of July.
Another statement was read by Civil Engineer Newbegin regarding grades near Grindstone station in absence of a profile map.
BOWDEN SIDING
Chairman Spofford asked some questions about Bowden. Siding, used by East Millinocket trains, extending two and a half miles from Millinocket station. This siding had been referred to by Gen. supt. Brown in his first testimony.
Supt. W. K. Hallet of the southern division gave further details regarding this siding, which showed that it was available for passenger trains of ten cars and an engine. Any train that cannot make Grindstone can use this siding.
JOHN JOHNSON
Operator at Millinocket. Witness cleared second seven on the night of the wreck, having no special orders for it. Gave clearance cards to both engineers and conductor of second seven. The last order was given to the engineer and conductor a short time after 8:55.
Then Dibblee and Garcelon went out and the train went north. The train register at Millinocket was then identified.
D. S. CHAPLIN
Witness was a brakeman on train eight the night of the wreck. Witness didn’t know of second seven and paid no attention of Grindstone station, as he was acting as baggage master.
Nothing new was brought out by this witness.
HARRY E. JACOBS
Assistant yard master at Millinocket. Had conversation with Engineer Garcelon. Asked if he had anything on number eight or if he was going to Bowden siding.
“He said he was going to Grindstone, “ said Jacobs, “and that he could do it in ten minutes, and could pass eight all right if they didn’t hold him too long for clearance.”
Conversation that I had with Garcelon took place outside the station window.
On cross-examination witness stated that it was 8:58.30 when the train, second seven, left Millinocket. That gave the train only ten minutes to make Grindstone. The clock in Millinocket station is supposed to be standard.
SUPT. MONTGOMERY
Witness gave technical description of appearance of wreck. Found both engines badly smashed up, but all the cars was on the track with the exception of combination car on excursion train and baggage car of number eight. The tender of engine 55 had been forced completely inside the combination car of excursion train.
On cross-examination witness stated that combination car was what is known as steel sill car and was in good condition. The brake on number 8 was in the emergency, but couldn’t say as to the one on engine 55, as it was broken off.
G. S. DUMPHEY
Telegraph operator at Millinocket. He was on number eight as a passenger. Witness knew that excursion train was running as second seven, as he had seen orders. Witness gave description of wreck, and stated he asked station agent at Grindstone to notify wrecker and doctors. Did not know office hours of men at Grindstone.
J. L. ROBBINS
Station agent at Grindstone. Was in office when first seven came along. Was at the station but not in the office during the evening. Went up when number eight came in to meet a friend, but did not go into the office. Heard a crash down the track when number eight had gone out, but thought the engine had blown out a cylinder head. Witness identified telegraphy reports of accident made by Conductors of both trains.
FATHER OF ENGINEER
P. J. Garcelon, father of Engineer Garcelon who was killed, exhibited the watch of his dead son, which was stopped at 9:10.05, and which Mr. Garcelon took from the body of his son a few minutes after the accident. The witness was treated with great tenderness by attorneys and by the commissioners. He was evidently under great strain.
J. M. FOGG
Pullman conductor. Witness said it was 9:11 when he first looked at his watch after the accident. He described the wreck, but didn’t say what splendid work he and his porter did in helping the injured, and emptying his sleeping car of all linen, and in furnishing hot water for the doctors.
JOHNSON RECALLED
Operator Johnson of Millinocket was recalled and gave farther testimony regarding the clearance given second seven. He thought it would have been impossible for second seven to have left Millinocket at 8:55 because it was not until that time that they were given their first orders. He recalled nothing regarding a conversation between Engineer Garcelon and Yardmaster Jacobs.
DEPUTY MARSHAL STEVENS
United States Deputy Marshal Stevens who assisted Conductor Nutter in getting names of the injured, while shackled to a prisoner whom he was taking to jail, read a list of the names of the passengers which he had secured, stating injuries, in case they were injured.
Sheriff Bryson of Aroostook county, who was a passenger on number eight, told of the impact of the trains, and described the rescue of those pinned in the wreckage.
CONDUCTOR DIBBLEE
It was 3:27 when Conductor H. T. Dibblee took the stand. Witness had been in the employ of the Bangor and Aroostook for about ten year, as spare man, sometimes brakeman, sometimes conductor and sometimes baggage man.
On Friday, July 28 ran the excursion train from Caribou to Kidder’s Point and back as far as the accident.
“When we reached Millinocket that night,” said the witness, “ I asked for an order on number eight at Grindstone before I registered.”
Witness identified station register at Millinocket, and stated that he signed his own and Garcelon’s name. While at Millinocket, witness signed two orders, one as second section of seven, and one running three hours and 45 minutes behind first seven.
“When I thought we were an extra,” he continued, “I asked Johnson for an order against eight, but when I found we were running as second seven, I didn’t think there was any need of it, as eight was superior then only in direction. I found the board against me, and asked the operator if he wouldn’t give me a clearance, and he said he would.
“It was 8:58 and some seconds when we got the clear.
“I asked Garcelon if he could make Grindstone all right, and he said he could, only he complained of the second order making us three hours and 45 minutes behind first seven. When we got the clearance I asked Frank (Garcelon) again, if he could make Grindstone all right. And he said he could.”
In answer to a question by Mr. Thompson, Dibblee said he had about eleven minutes in which to make not quite nine miles between Millinocket and Grindstone.
The county attorney read the rule regarding an inferior train on a single track.
“Do you understand that rule?” asked the county attorney.
“I do now, “ said Dibblee, “ but that night I thought I had ample time to make Grindstone against eight, with 26 seconds to spare before eight left Grindstone.
“As sure as I am alive, “ said Dibblee, “I thought I could clear eight at Grindstone, and I thought I had a right to according to the rules.”
Dibblee said that he had a different understanding of the rule today than last week.
“The first time I thought there might be danger was about 9:05 and I didn’t know exactly where we were until we struck the bridge this side of Grindstone. I went out on the platform at 9:05 to see if I could see where we were. About this time Garcelon, who had been running at high speed, put on the air.
“When we went on the bridge, I jumped to the door, and it was 9:09.10 and I was afraid we would strike eight, but I hoped that we would get onto the straight [?] Iron so the engineers could see each other’s headlight.”
“Did you pull the danger cord?”
asked Mr. Thompson.
“I started to, but then I changed my mind and thought it better not to.”
“Didn’t you think it was dangerous to try to make the run to Grindstone?”
“I didn’t that night, as we wouldn’t have to make 50 miles an hour, but I realize now that it was,” said Dibblee.
Conductor Dibblee was questioned by one of the federal investigators at this point. He bore down hard on Dibblee regarding his knowledge of the rules.
Coming down to the time of the accident Dibblee asserted again that he thought he had time to spare on 50 miles an hour between Millinocket and Grindstone, but he didn’t know how much. Witness said he wasn’t very familiar with the area [?].
“Why didn’t you stop your train and run your flag ahead when you saw you were likely the hit number eight?”
“I had no red lantern in the baggage car, but I had a [?] in the service box,” replied the witness.
“Why did you leave so much responsibility with the engineer?”
“I didn’t leave it with him. I depended more on his judgment than on my own.
“Did you express doubt as to making the Grindstone crossing?”
“I did when I felt Garcelon putting on the air and slowing up.”
“Did you know where you were all the time?
“I did not until 9:05. I only knew we were running very fast. I am not familiar with the road south of Oakfield. The engineer kept slowing down so steadily that I thought we must be getting to the switch and it was only when we went over the bridge that I knew exactly where we were.”
Chairman Spofferd then asked the witness if he realized that it would have taken 10 minutes and 46 seconds running at 50 miles an hour to get from Millinocket to Grindstone?
“No, “ said Dibblee. “I thought that we could make Grindstone all right, and I believe the same engine and the same cars could make it today?”
“Why didn’t you pull your danger signal when admit you were nervous and protect your train,” asked Mr. Thompson.
“Because I thought it would be better to go as fast as we could so number eight wouldn’t get so much head way from Grindstone station. We were going slowly then and I thought if we got tot eight before she picked up speed, it would be better than to stay where we were in case there was a collision.
REAR BRAKEMAN
Clarence A. Ciley, the next witness said that he had heard nothing about number eight and hadn’t seen any orders regarding running. “I was sitting in the rear car of second seven when the smash occurred.
J. S. Peepina, one of the brakemen, said he looked at the order making his train run three hours and 45 minutes behind first seven from Millinocket to South Oakfield.
Witness said he heard conductor Dibblee ask Garcelon, the dead engineer, twice, if he could make Grindstone and clear eight and Garcelon said he could all right.
Witness said that on the south bound trip, below Northern Maine Junction, the engineer stopped owing to the 55 developing a hot eccentric. The weather was very bad, at about the time the accident occurred, and witness from rear platform of train couldn’t get bearing. We went into the bridge over the river at 9:09.10.
PASSENGERS TESTIFIED
E. M. Fulton, of Maine, a druggist, and passenger on the excursion train, was sitting behind Dr. Pipes in the passenger end of the combination car, until about five minutes before the accident when he went out in the baggage compartment. Witness saw Dibblee come in and look out the side door and up the track. Almost at once the crash came. Witness then told of getting the bodies out and caring for the injured. Witness said that the train was going from six to nine miles an hour as nearly as he could estimate, when the crash came.
H. J. McDougal of Caribou, another passenger, told of his experiences during the wreck. The seat he was occupying was broken up. “ When we slacked up,” said the witness, “just before the accident, somebody said we were getting into Grindstone.”
DIBBLEE RECALLED
Conductor Dibblee was recalled and told of the cars that made up second seven, a combination passenger and baggage, and four ordinary coaches, five in all, hauled by engine 55, a freight locomotive.
HE JUMPED
“How long did you stand in the doorway of the baggage car after you had gone into the bridge,” said Inspector Anderson.
“Until just before we struck,” said Dibblee.
“What did you do then?”
“I jumped.”
“You knew the trains were coming together.”
“I saw eight coming o the curve.”
On further questioning by the inspector, Conductor Dibblee said he would have to admit that he wasn’t equipped with a red lantern and a flare so that he could properly protect his front.
“What was your highest rate of speed between Millinocket and Grindstone,” asked Chairman Spofford.
“About 60 miles an hour, I think,” said Dibblee.
RUNNING TIME.
In reply to questions by Inspector Anderson and Judge Stearns, Supt. Hallet said that second seven had to clear eight at Grindstone south switch, and it was depending upon the judgment of the conductor of second seven whether he could do it safely.
Mr. Hallet then spoke of the system of examinations and promotions, which prevail on the Bangor & Aroostook.
“We don’t get any conductors ready made,” said he. “We promote from the service and know pretty much all about them before they go ahead.”
Witness said that he knew nothing in Dibblee’s record that would make him unfit to take a train like the one he had Friday.
ENDED AT 5:30
After the various exhibits had been submitted both State and federal investigators said they had nothing more to offer, and the hearing adjourned.
The special with Vice-President Todd and the other officers aboard left Millinocket at 5:55 arriving in Bangor at 8 o’clock.

